Percussion rifles use a small pressuresensitive percussion. Traditions a1207 performance firearms muzzleloader round handle ball starter. Additionally my gun is too slow of a turn to shoot anything but round balls. By two oclock that afternoon, id fired the rifle five more times, all but one of them resulting in another squirrel for my pack and an everwidening grin upon my face. This evening i skinned and quartered the carcass of the deer. Man gear, powder horn, longhunter, american frontier, fur trade. How to make patches for black powder shooting youtube. Heres an easy way to make shooting patches for your black powder guns. Mar 17, 2015 in general patch round ball twists are much slower, 1 in 66 inch for is common in repro pennaky, va, hawken and southern types, whereas conical,minie repros run 1 in 32 and 1 in 48 are common, antique rifles have a twist decided on by the barrel maker and his rifling machine. A piece of cloth, leather, or paper used to wrap around a round ball or occasionally a. Out of a quality bore, a properly loaded patched round ball can prove deadly accurate at the ranges it was truly intended for and that is 25 to 50 yards.
Starting at 60 grains and working up is a good way to do it. When loading a patched ball, position the sprue up and centered. Loading blocks for patched round balls with images. The patched round ball challenge hunt page 2 hunt talk. A good patch is made of good quality, dense natural material. My question is are round balls humane on deer when shot in. I know a fair number here in alaska that do the same. Small game hunting with muzzleloaders realtree camo. Black powder round ball trajectory with that load of 80 grains of fffg and a.
Jake and i discuss ball diameter, patch thickness and patch lube. Gently used condition lee brand round ball mold for casting a sprueless. Knead the bag for a couple of minutes, and all of the patches will fully absorb the lardlube. My first true big bore patched round ball muzzleloading rifle was the 38inch barreled. With a fulllength walnut stock, beautiful solid brass furniture, an octagonal 33 12. Pour the measured powder charge down the barrel and load a patched round ball directly on top of the powder charge omitting all the cards and wads. Ff powder, pillow ticking patchbore butter, from a deer. Powder horn patches projects project ideas rifles balls guns. The lubed patch should be thick enough to hold the ball snugly on top of the powder charge and keep it centered in the bore.
Traditions performance firearms muzzleloader shooting patches. That rifling twist is too slow to stabilize conical bullets, but its just about perfect for a patched round ball. The baker rifle came later than the patched round ball. Precision shooting patches for round ball track of the wolf. Patched ball has a lapping effect, and as you shoot the sharp edges will wear with time. It was by far the most accurate load in that gun, and while labeled light by a lot of guys, it killed with alacrity. Barrel twist should be at least 148, 160 is better.
I make quite a few paper patched round balls pprbs for use in muzzleloaders. Jun 18, 2014 jake and i discuss ball diameter, patch thickness and patch lube. Nov 14, 2014 a loading block is a piece of wood drilled to size to hold your cloth patched round ball. No list of the best traditional muzzleloaders for hunters would be complete without a kentucky rifle. Another option is a traditional 16 gauge shotgun slug no patch, but finding. It was unusual in that i had a lyman peep sight installed on the rifle for more precise aiming. It may be embedded in 4dimensional euclidean space as the set of points equidistant from a fixed central point. Now im not sure if the patch gets spun off the ball or if patch and ball just skims the rifling but either way a round ball wont shoot for squat out of a fast twist barrel unless you cut the powder down to an absolute minimum which makes it impractical for most purposes. Until the development of the minie ball in the middle of the 19th century, the main disadvantages of a rifle. Aug 04, 2014 the patching material is the key to be accurate with a round ball load.
With 8 ounces of pressure, the hammer fell, sending the 45grain patched round ball skyward in a plume of white smoke. Serious target competitors commonly load with a ball thats just. You can buy good quality patches in your local blackpowder shop, but you can also make your own. My elk load, at docs recommendation, is 200 grains of. A history of the cincinnati enquirer glory days series the next generation trenz still tries to mix it up in roundball, even with some of the neighborhood fathers. Minimum deerkilling muzzleloading loads for young and small. Patches are available in 10, 15, 20, and 25 thou thicknesses in most good muzzleloading stores.
That ball isnt made for big game all the typical brain washed fubar where some think you need plastic, ss, scoped and high priced pretty shaped bullets in order to down game. The squirrel tumbled off the limb to the woodlot floor. Patched ball barrels wear out faster than naked lead barrles. Pdf 3863 kb journal of fish and wildlife management. I have a very good idea of what kinds of shoots i can make with it. I put 100 dry patches in a zip sandwich bag and pour about 12 fluid oz of melted, 100% hog lard in the bag with the patches. When using conical bullets or patched round ball, it is.
The canadian muzzleloaders use it a lot to cast round balls for moose, especially larger cals, since it doesnt expand much at all, and can greatly increase penetration compared to pure lead. Here is a patched round ball rifle and load that will deliver more than 1,500 foot pounds of knockdown power at 100 yards. Precision made from special tightly woven cotton, to insure uniformity. Black powder guns longhunter long rifle hunting gear mountain man projects to try patches hunters kentucky. Completely uniform in size, weight, and roundness, hornady round balls. Constant thickness, weave, diameter, weight and thread count help eliminate these variables from your shooting.
Shot a big doe at about 70 yards tonight in fresh snow. The long rifle, also known as longrifle, kentucky rifle, pennsylvania rifle, or american longrifle. Hunter with a 1 in 66 twist, and the gun shoots nothing but patchroundball accurate. Actually, with 50 grains and up with the correct barrelbullet does not change accuracy with the great plains rifle. Offered as dry, oiled, wonderlubed, or premium lubed on select sizes.
So far ive killed 4 deer with the gun, but the blood trails have been nothing short of horrible. Round balls in fast twist rifles white muzzle loading. Shooters learned long ago that the same properties which existed in pillow ticking were conducive to making excellent round ball patches. Analogous to how the boundary of a ball in three dimensions is an ordinary. Previously i have hunted with 70 grains bp substitute and the r. In the typical lightweight rifles that a young hunter can handle 67 lbs. Bags have been found with 3 blocks of 3 round balls. The load i settled on consisted of 140grains of goex ffg black powder, behind a patched 344grain. Dec 25, 2010 the lightest projectile in this caliber is a patched round ball. Minimum deerkilling muzzleloading loads for young and. Using readly available patches and balls the only combo that would work was. Fulllength 2piece walnutfinished select hardwood stock.
Roundball definition of roundball by merriamwebster. I had put the rifle together specifically for taking my second buffalo. Poking a long hole in any animal smaller than a fullgrown holstein will put it on the ground. Completely uniform in size, weight, and roundness, hornady round balls deliver consistent and accurate performance. If you drop to a lower charge 100gr you can go back to a patched round ball with good accuracy. In coordinates, a 3sphere with center c0, c1, c2, c3 and radius r is the set. This evening i skinned and quartered the carcass of the. I have a bunch of modern rifles and big bore revolvers so i am going either way i just am looking for more info on doing it with plain old lead before i make that decision. Round ball patches were found to be a potential source of ignition.
A round ball doesnt touch the rifling itself, the patch does. Also, traditional muzzleloader only shooting orgnizations generally require the use of patched round ball only during official muzzleloading target competition. Precision shooting patches for round ball precision shooting patches. Many years ago i was a frequent visitor to the nmlra matchs in friendship in, and i have seen many matches won with this technic. During the american revolution 3 to 5 ball loading blocks were common.
They are historically correct and are easy to make yourself. Nov 27, 2009 i shoot mainly patched round balls for deer, but for bear i like the added energy of the maxi ball. Patched round ball gun and game the friendliest gun. Theyre cold swaged from pure lead which eliminates air pockets and voids common to cast balls.
It is a round ball gun and my standard load is 100 grains of ffg with a patched round ball. In mathematics, a 3sphere, or glome, is a higherdimensional analogue of a sphere. Just take your time and swab the bore clean frequently. Subreddit dedicated to discussion of black powder firearms. I dont think i need to mention the bc of a round ball is horrid. So after a couple of boxes of those small ball thick patch combinations, give the larger sized ball and thinner patch another try.
And the smoother, rounder surface assures better rotation and consistency. Several side hammer round ball guns are available in. I tried the maxi hunters and they fit the barrel as good as the lee real bullets. Killing power of patched round ball prb the high road. The brits used split leather patches in there rifle corps. Paper patching a round ball how would someone paper patch a round ball for a bolt action rifle. I would bet a donut that you will find your sweet spot around 70 to 75 grains of 777. I shoot a lot plan old lead balls in my hawken rifle. The patch round ball challenge long range hunting forum.
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